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Episode 228: Chakras Unveiled--The Hidden Path to Body Wisdom w/ Dr. Mary Sanders
In this episode of the Aging Well Podcast, Dr. Mary Sanders, a chiropractor and medical intuitive with over 30 years of experience, joins Corbin and Dr. Armstrong in a fascinating intersection of ancient wisdom and modern science. This episode explores the chakra system and its connections to the endocrine glands and central nervous system. Dr. Mary shares her journey, including overcoming personal challenges and discovering the integration of the chakra system with neuroscience. Learn how understanding these energy centers can transform outdated patterns, nurture the mind-body connection, and unlock a holistic path to health, happiness, and purpose. Tune in for a transformative conversation on the hidden path to body wisdom and... aging well.
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In this enlightening episode of the Aging Law Podcast, we dive into the fascinating intersection of ancient wisdom and modern science with Dr. Mary Sanders, a chiropractor and medical intuitive. With over 30 years of experience, Dr. Sanders takes us on a journey through the chakra system, revealing its connections to the endocrine glands, central nervous system, and our overall wellbeing. Together, we'll explore how understanding these energy centers can help us transform outdated patterns, nurture our mind body connection, and unlock a more holistic path to health, happiness, and purpose. Join us for this transformative conversation on the hidden path to body wisdom and aging well.
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:Dr. Mary, welcome to the aging well podcast. Let's have you start by just sharing a little bit about yourself and how you Your journey as a chiropractor and a medical intuitive led you to explore the connection between the chakra system and neuroscience.
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Sure. Well, first and foremost, Jeff, I want to say thank you so much. I really sincerely appreciate the opportunity to show up and to share space with you and all that you're providing for your listeners. And listeners, my invitation for you is to listen with an open mind. I'm going to be talking about the subtle energetic system that surrounds our physical body as well as penetrating into the physical body. So this may be a new concept for some of you and if that's the case, I'm super excited to, to share some of my wisdom with you and for those of you that do have a background and understanding, welcome I think it's going to be a juicy conversation. As Jeff mentioned, I've been a practicing chiropractor since let's see A little over 30 years. So, to make a long story short, I was born hearing impaired and blessed with the ability to receive information and to feel information via my hands. I knew that I had this gift at a very young age. So I'm talking about at like three years old. I knew that I, my purpose was to have my hands on people. my belief system is that if one of your five traditional senses is compromised in any way, shape or form, you have the ability to access information above and beyond the traditional five senses. And so because of my hearing impairment, I developed a keen sense of psychometry, which essentially is the ability to perceive or receive information via my hand. And so I kind of felt my way through life, right? So when I completed my undergraduate degree in chemistry and zoology, five days later, I was in chiropractic school and I was surrounded by people that were like, they were my tribe for the first time in my life. I was surrounded by people who were saying the human body has the innate ability to heal itself from the inside out. And oh, by the way, let's apply our hands onto the physical body and let's remove any nerve interference that might be happening stemming from the central nervous system out to the body. yes, I was given permission to use my strength and to put my hands on body. So it started at a young age, and then as life happens, Jeff, I'll try to keep this story short, but it's part of the whole journey, and that is I went into business for myself. And to make a long story short, I it became like this mission, this passion to have this successful practice. And I did. I developed large practices, multiple practices, a big staff. And as a direct result of that, I went through an extreme burnout. And I flatlined, and from the outside perspective, it looked like I was having a thriving life, and on the inside, I was absolutely miserable. So I was thinking to myself, like, seriously, this is it? This is what you work so hard to accomplish, and then you're miserable on the inside? This can't be it. And so what ended up happening, as I was going through my complete adrenal exhaustion, I lost the ability to be able to exercise. And exercise for me is not a four letter word. You know, it is something that I love. It's what allows me to be able to connect to my own physical body. And so when I wasn't able to exercise or to even walk a mile, then I literally had to turn my reflection internally and say, What is it? What is really happening? What's happening on a physical? What's happening on emotional? What's happening on a chemical? What's happening on an energetic level? How can I help heal myself? And through divine timing, my husband took an international posting in Ho Chi Minh City, so we sold everything. I walked away from these, you know, 23 year old practices and decided to follow my husband to Ho Chi Minh City on the other side of the world where I woke up and went through this huge identity crisis because I had no idea who I was if I didn't have that brick and mortar place where everybody came into the door and said, Hey, Dr. Mary, how are you? So did what any logical, sane person would do. I ran away from Ho Chi Minh City to Bali, Indonesia, and I wrapped up my yoga teacher's certification. And I've been a practicing yogi since I guess about 20 years old. And so it was just something that I wanted to do for my own personal development. But something really magical happened as I fell in love with meditation. And so I was so intrigued by what was happening in the space between my ears, right, so intrigued what was happening as far as my body that I went to go study underneath Dr. Talbin Shahar to understand the neuroscience behind meditation. So all of a sudden, right, so I'm a chiropractor, I know the body extremely well from the neck on down. I'm starting to better understand what's happening in the neuroscience of the brain. then a couple of years later, I was like, wow, so there's something that's happening in this unseen world of ours that's affecting the energetics the human body. And that's when I went to go train under Dr. Francesca McCartney at the intuition of the of the Institution of Medical Intuition. so that's when I was finally able, for the first time, I realized that my non circular journey that I had been on, that I so called life, That it was training me to really look at the human body from an integrative way where we can say, truly, we're addressing the mind, the body, and the spirit. So that's how I show up as a medical intuitive these days, helping people put together the puzzle, the pieces of the puzzle to better understand. happening within their human energetic
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:Well first, what is a medical intuitive? And second, you kind of already answered it, but what inspired you to integrate ancient energy systems and modern science into your practice?
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Yeah, that's a great question, Corbyn. A medical intuitive is someone who utilizes the modalities that are based upon the principle that the human body is made up of electrical systems and magnetic systems. Okay, the science Corbin that I learned when I was in chiropractic school in my undergraduate school Thankfully is evolving so we are now looking at the human system from a quantum level in quantum biology and quantum neurology and really emphasizing that we are electrical and magnetic Beings. So it serves us if we know that the cellular membrane, the trillions of the cells that we have within our physical body are made up of a quantum level, a hexagonal kind of matrix, cellular matrix, that everything happens from nutrients that want to be pulled into the cell, everything that co transport happens on an electromagnetic level. And we see it within the nerve conductivity within the human body now, too. So, that's why I was like, oh wow, okay, so I know physiology, anatomy, chemistry within the physical body. Now you're telling me there's another layer, there's another layer that I get to look at, and that's the electrical system. Not above and beyond the neurological systems. So, that's when I was like, okay, so there's an opportunity to blend and to show up in my strengths of all these various different spheres of influence in order to hold space for the human system, another beautiful spirit residing within the human home, for deeper levels of healing that are truly transformative.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:You know, I really appreciate you explaining that because when I was in college we had to do a little job shadowing, and I job but he wasn't the stereotypical okay, I'm just gonna pop your bones and You're good to go. He followed a lot of this Eastern medicine style that you're talking about right now. And especially when it come, came to your body craving certain minerals or nutrients. showed me all this and at the time I just, brain just couldn't comprehend it. he just kept telling me, he goes, it's because you're studying Western medicine. And I think how you explained it was nice. I like that. Thank you.
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:welcome.
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:So Dr. Mary, for our viewers and listeners who are unfamiliar with chakras, can you explain what they are and their significance in our overall well being?
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Sure, happy to. A chakra, when you look at the derivative of the word, it means nothing more than a circle or a wheel. from an energetic perspective, and again, chakra systems have been around in the Vedic sciences for thousands of years. This is not something new that I'm introducing. It's something that through the practice of yoga, if you think about yoga a Traditional sequence in yoga, we'll talk about various different planes of the body, the frontal plane, the back plane, the side planes, and the chakra system does not have any valves to it. It's not like our circulatory system where it just pumps on its own. It's kind of like our lymphatic system that requires muscular contraction or intention in order to pump the fluid. So in Vedic sciences, they said, Oh, we have this energetic system and we can open it based upon body posture. So you'll hear yoga instructors talk about front body openers. Back body openers, side openers, and what they're doing is essentially doing flexion and extension surrounding the various different planes of the body. The design of that is to open up the energy system, specifically the chakra system, which are essentially wheels of energy. That have three primary focuses. You want to receive the information coming in from the environment. You want to assimilate that information. Then you want to express your life force out into the world or into the environment. So those are the primary things. three rules of the chakra system, the energy systems. And for today's purpose, our conversation for today, I'm just going to be referring to the seven main chakras as they relate to the human body. The lower three chakras are specifically intimately related to our human home. Then we have a transitional energy center, our heart, and then we have the upper energy centers, which then connect us more into the spiritual realm. But what I've learned, Jeff, what I've learned is that As the energy comes from the environment and penetrates into the energy that surrounds our human home and then gets picked up by the individual chakras, there's several things that happen simultaneously. Number one, the energy connects with an endocrine gland. And for those of you listening to simplify an endocrine gland has a primary responsibility of producing hormones. So there's a hormonal response. The second thing is that each of these areas has a nerve plexus. And that's just a highway of nerves that connect into that endocrine gland and into the spine, okay? So then what we know is as information comes into the chakra system, then has a spin and it assimilates that information. It then triggers the endocrine gland associated with that energy center and triggers the nerves that combine, that connect into the spine. Now, I know that this sounds far fetched and kind of out there for some of you, so let's talk about one. Let's break one down. Is that okay?
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:Yeah, that's great.
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Okay, so I'm going to take the very first energy center that's located deep within the pelvis, within the pelvic bowl. Okay, so we're talking about the chakra that is closest to the earth. Now, as energy comes in from the environment and penetrates into the area deep below the belly button, The endocrine gland that it stimulates is the adrenal system, okay? The hormones with the adrenal system are going to be your epinephrine, your norepinephrine, your DHEA, cortisol. Those are probably, some of you are familiar with some of those hormones. So, if there is an excess of energy or a deficiency of energy, it will trip the endocrine system to be overproductive or underproductive. And when the hormones hit the blood or the circulatory system, it then travels, ultimately takes a while, but it gets back up into the brain. And the brain then has a neuropeptide that it elicits a response it's a hormonal response to those hormones. That's one pathway. The second pathway, the energy comes in through the environment, enters in the first chakra, and then lights up the lumbosacral nerve pathway. plexus. And this nerve plexus are those spinal nerve roots that come out of the broad triangular bone at the base of the spine known as the sacrum and the lower lumbars. Okay, so we're talking about the body regions. that control the anus, the butt, thighs, knees, ankles, feet. So the physical symptoms that a person may be experiencing in today's world, such as whether it be plantar fasciitis, knee issues varicosities, hemorrhoids, those kind of physical symptoms are directly related to that nerve plexus, which is directly related to that energy center. So we know that life events that happen, right? we create them or they happen for us, infiltrate into those energy centers and trip the neurology of the body and can compromise the areas of where those nerves.
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:Okay, so how do unresolved emotions and stress manifest through the chakra system? And how might this impact our physical health? And I think you kind of alluded to that a little bit, but maybe for the listeners to just kind of explore that a little bit more.
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Unresolved traumas, in my opinion, are stored within your tissues. You've heard people say, the issues are in the tissues. And so, when you talk about, for the purpose of today's, for the purpose of today's episode on aging well, I believe, unfortunately, as we live through life, we experience adverse We can say some of us experience repetitive small T traumas, or some of us have experienced big T traumas. And very few of us are conditioned in today's world to process traumas immediately when they occur. So they get stored within the tissue. If that's left untreated, it can cause Other physical issues. Okay, let's go back to the example that we were using for the first energy center, the root chakra associated with the adrenal system and the lumbosacral nerve plexus. So we know that many of us, myself included, I've lived through this, where we are living in a dysregulated, nervous system. And what I mean by that, and I'm sure all of you are familiar with it, is that when we are not, our autonomic nervous system is geared towards and wired towards being in sympathetic dominance. So when you're in fight or flight or freeze mode, you're constantly neurologically sending signals to the body and the tissue. A, you're not safe. B, who do you trust? Okay, and it rocks a person's foundation. So when we have emotional issues, Whether they be from conditioned responses or trauma, and we know that they're stored within the tissue, it will alter the signal being sent out by the energy system, it can affect the integrity and the health of the body, and the chemistry, and the system as well. Hopefully, that's helpful. That answers your question.
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:It does.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:So it's like a conscious mind versus a subconscious mind. Is that, or am I being too ignorant on that?
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:No, no Corbin. I think that's kind of a if that works for you for compartmentalizing, you know of subconscious stuff I say, yeah, that aligns with what it is that I'm trying to communicate because the subtle energetic system in the Western world, right? We're not conditioned to look into, oh, well, where you can't see it. First and foremost,
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:Right.
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:see it. And so how are you going to know when there is a disruption within your subtle energetic body? You have to listen to the physical body and to be truthful about your emotional state. that's the point I was trying to make earlier that I never got around to, Jeff. And that is, as we age, it's my philosophy that we are, we get to be held accountable for our healing. We don't get to, we get to be empowered, meaning long gone are the days in which I will turn over my power to a physician and say, fix me. I'm going to walk into a physician's office and say, I'm doing these things. This is what I suspect. And I, oh, by the way, I'd like to have these panels ran to help substantiate my belief system. So as we age, it's our responsibility to get to the core root of our issue. The core root much deeper than what we can physically see and feel. So, Corbin, to your point, it could be the stuff the neurological subconscious patterning that's happening neurologically within the brain and being stored within the body.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:Okay. That kind of makes sense. Yeah. All right. Cool. can you share an example of how balancing a specific chakra has led to significant healing or transformation for someone?
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Yeah there's one patient that comes into mind and she was experiencing a rare form of blood cancer. Now, to better understand her history, she had gone through two different divorces and she was a single mom and she was responsible financially for the caring for her two daughters and to make a long story short, she also She had a lot of fear. She was fear driven. Like, can she do this? Is she going to be supported? Is everything going to be okay? So those were kind of the emotional questions that she was walking around with. Now this woman was when she first came to me was just maybe she was 59 turning on 60 she's like, you know what? I'm tired of this. I know that I've been doing the proper Western modalities for treating this cancer. And I believe there's a deeper level to it that I'm not addressing. Like she intuitively knew that there was some conditioning or programming that was underlining her physical issues. So when I scanned her, when I, and again, when I say I scanned somebody, please know that I'm in an expanded state, meaning that I've already been sitting in meditation for at least 30 minutes. My, my field is expanded and open to receiving the intuition that will serve the other person to their highest good. when I was in this state, I was like, show me the energy center that has been most impacted. And it was the first energy center. As I mentioned in the previous example, the first energy center is all about survival. And it's about prosperity. It's about aligning with your purpose and knowing how you show up in the world. Those are kind of some of the themes that we see in this first energy center. one of the body regions that I didn't really talk about because it's a deeper layer, but the bones are also associated with the first energy center. And so within the long bones, within the bone marrow, You've got the production of these red blood cells. And so when I was scanning her, it became really clear. It showed up in like frames. It showed up first energy center, showed up as long bones and it showed up as the blood. So as we were able to regulate her first energy centers, she started to experience now, Corbin, please don't hear this. It took about six months, but she started to have decreases within her cancer markers and beyond the traditional changes that a physician or an oncologist would expect to see based upon the traditional modality that she was also doing. we were working with ancillary and complimentary systems. We weren't ignoring what she was doing on from a Western science. We were adding to, we were adding to her treatment modality. to this day, she's pretty remarkable. She really acknowledges how we were unable to unravel and support Some of her conditioned beliefs around safety, security, and the unknown financial prosperity. So we were able to, that's a live example to take. you one.
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:So what are some simple practices or exercises that our listeners or viewers can begin to use to begin connecting with and balancing their chakras?
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Yeah, I love this question because I just want to simply I want to simplify it. I believe so strongly in all energy medicine that I believe the world would be a better place if everyone meditated for 1010 minutes a day the reason that I think the world would be a better place is that we would shift our awareness away from the environment and turn it in internally. Right, so we can hear ourself think we can physically feel our body so that we can connect with some of the subtleties that surround us. So my first step is really truly to use meditation and possibly breath to bring the awareness back into the subtleties of the human system. And then just set the intention, Jeff, just set the intention that you are looking to charge, you're looking to cleanse and looking to repair the energy system. You're supporting yourself, filling yourself up with some of the most sustainable energy that we have. For example, the earth energy the, you know, scientifically proven humans residents that supports us. So the answer to your question is to sit quietly for 10 minutes a day.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:That's it? That's all you gotta do? Just sit quiet? Alright. Okay,
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:That's
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:10 minutes a day and we can solve the world's problems.
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Right.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:well, how can awareness of chakras how can the, can awareness of chakra systems help us identify and release outdated responses to life's challenges?
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Right. I'm going to go back to that example I was talking about that 60 year old woman. So she really was no longer in a financial disparity. I mean, she really financially was well cared for. Right. She couldn't really see it or allow herself to experience it because the conditioned responses were so outdated. She had lived so long in that scarcity mindset. That was old, but that was the paradigm that she knew well. And so by By clearing those out of her system, she was able to say, Oh, wow, okay, that's so old. I no longer need that as a crutch. I have what it takes to survive and to thrive and to prosper.
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:So, Dr. Mary, neuroscience is a key part of your work. How does modern science support or complement these ancient understandings of the energy systems like chakras?
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:You know, Jeff, I am so happy to say that science is proving it as we speak, and they have been doing so for the last 30 years. Now, I'm going to say, okay, I'm going to say, as a practitioner, Corbin, you saw this. You saw this when you did your internship with the chiropractor, that chiropractors are notorious for holding space for healing modality that have yet to be proven. Okay, now there is a, as a practitioner, there's a pregnant pause. I kid you not, where we literally are incubating and holding space for this healing modality and the patients will be like, this is so, this is, I don't know how it's working, but it works. This stuff works. And so the premise of holding space for the science, the hardcore science, the neuroscience that has been proven and bridging that gap into the science that has yet to be proven is one of my missions. I fully acknowledge and well, let me just say, that's why I started my podcast, Energy Medicine, because we talk about all those things that align the mind, body, and spirit, but possibly have not been proven. via hardcore science. Now, I I know that there is science out there that has occurred, but the research in the publication of these various modalities has yet to become. I know that there's lots of research out there that says, yes, we are electric and yes, we are magnetic. And this is how we can heal ourselves. also know that in a decade or two decades from now, there's going to be a lot more research.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:Well, let's talk about that research. Are there any studies or scientific findings that have particularly validated your approach? So
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:I'm going to shout out to the Institute of Noetic Sciences, and that's, for short, it's called IONS, and they're located, I believe if they, I think they're still in Petaluma, California, and they have a big research team and are receiving and they're doing quite a bit of funding to help support the various different ways that we can receive information intuition wise, and validating the research of hands on modalities and also remote work, such as some of the stuff that I do, they are constantly running bigger spectrum research projects to help validate that. So they're one of several. And they're in several different institutions, but they're doing some of the greatest work out there that I know. So hats off to Helene Wabash and Garrett Young and their research team.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:you're saying like, there's actually research out there when an individual who's a master in the craft that you are, when they move their hands and they scan someone, There's actually research over the scanning process? Is it like, thermal views on a camera? I don't know what, I'm just curious. Like, is it showing you pulling the energy? How does that work?
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:believe that you are correct and that there are some, is research out there that is showing the heat conductivity. Okay, so that is one variable that you can measure. Then you can also measure electrical voltage. so
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:the EKGs of a heart?
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Yeah, so you'll see changes within the heart math institution is institute is notorious for using the variabilities within the heart to measure the scientific impact of heart coherence. That's another validation. So, yes, indeed, there are scientific ways to physically measure. The stuff that I'm referring to,
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:Are they also measuring when you said you were seeing the bone and, how The blood. I'm assuming you were seeing that almost in like a Transcended spiritual state. Are they able to Connect with your brainwaves as well to see if they're seeing that? Yeah, I'm
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:and measuring the electrodes within brain activity of those people who are intuitive or psychic, would like to think that they have this in that way, what they have done are group studies. So let's say. Your, you have one person like my patient who then sits down and then you have a panel of medical intuitives and that they document what they're sensing, seeing, feeling. And again, what you're referring to specifically, Corbyn, is clairvoyance. And that is the ability to see above and beyond the physical. It's tricky because, you know, I've had so many guests who have clairvoyant senses on my podcast, and it's really interesting to listen to the individual practitioner describe how they quote unquote see. different for each person who's receiving the information, but nine times out of ten, Corbyn, the information has a common theme or a common thread. just see it or say it in a different way. Has your been blown yet?
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:trying to process everything that you're it I'm just trying to take it all in right now So
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:It's a lot to digest. It's a lot to digest. And quite honestly, I love appealing to the intellect, but I also just as equally love to appeal to the experiential. Okay. Look, I don't know how my computer works, but it works and I use it every day. I don't know how my car works and I drive it every day. So I don't have to know intellectually how something works to believe in its efficiency.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:you emphasize transforming and how we should show up in the world. How does this deeper awareness of the chakra system contribute to living with purpose and thriving health?
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:I'm going to take it one step further and say, well, this is a podcast all about aging. Well, right.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:That's right.
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:And so if you're wanting to thrive as we age, and I'm one of these people, that I know that as I age, there's only so much that I can do physically right. To maintain mobility, movement and strength and flexibility within my physical body. But I know that's what, and I work really hard at maintaining that. That's only one component. So I know that if I want to age well, that I get to address some of the stuff that the condition, emotional stuff, the energetic stuff that's stored within the body so that I truly can be the best version of self and that my friends is thriving in today's world.
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:It kind of fits our pattern of what we call SPIES, the spiritual, physical, intellectual, emotional, and social balance. in life. So what role does the chakra system play in achieving emotional resilience and mental clarity?
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Well, I know I've come back to the example that I provided within that 60 year old female, but I can honestly, and I know this within my heart, that the healing that she has done, right? I'm going to, I'm going to, if I haven't blown your mind, I'm going to blow it one more time. And that is, I believe the healing that she has done in present time is affecting all of the conditional responses that she's had in this lifetime. And I also know that it has influenced the conditional responses that possible previous ancestors down her family lineage may have also experienced. So I know that her healing today, this 60 year old healing today, will make a positive impact on her two daughters and the offsprings of her two daughters in the future. So that I think is resilience.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:Okay, so for someone just beginning their journey into body wisdom and chakras, what advice would you give them to start with? That's
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Be patient. Be patient and develop a relationship with your intuition because what I've learned is that the somatic wisdom that resides within all of our physical bodies, if you have a chronic area, Corbin, let's just, I'm going to pick on you for a minute.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:fine?
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:that, let's say that you have a right levator the muscle on top of the scapula that causes your shoulder to shrug. Let's say that you have like a ball, like you have a knot that just won't. Disappear, and then conversely, you've got a left dysfunctional, meaning that you know that it's just biomechanically not doing what it needs to do. And so by sending your awareness to those areas in a brief meditation, where you could possibly, just possibly, entertain the idea of leaning into that muscle spasm or that knot. Or leaning into your pelvis and asking your body, what is it? I can do to help support you. What is it that I haven't treated? What is it that you want to say to me? So as you sit in meditation for just even 10 minutes, count on your somatic wisdom to start to talk to you. And then once it talks to you, just listen. And then once you're listening, just trust. the hardest part. And so that wisdom that I want to share with the listeners is that when you're getting messages, you don't have to act on them immediately. Just have a dialogue with the human body and say, What is it you need me to know? And then over time, if you get the same message, Corbin, it's like if you go to three different friends and you ask them, Hey, do you like this new girlfriend of mine? And if three of those friends say, no, I don't like her. No, I don't like her. No, I don't like her. If you hear it the third time, then you're finally going to say, Oh, there must be some truth to this. Maybe they're seeing something that I'm not seeing. And so if you're sitting there and repetitively asking, you know, your right shoulder blade, what can you do? What is it? What's trapped in there? And they keep saying, Oh, it's anger. Oh, it's anger. Oh, it's anger. And you're like, it's not anger. And they're like, yeah, it is anger. It's anger. It's anger. So finally, you're going to go, Oh, maybe I've got some unprocessed anger in that area.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:How do you? Oh man, how do you? How do you talk to? How do you listen to your body to talk to you and tell you that it's anger versus you just gotta, you just gotta sit at your desk differently? Does that make sense? Like you're not in your green zone in your desk. You're you're actually, you're tweaked. You just gotta ergonomically adjust it appropriately.
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:If that's the first message that you receive and you fix the problem And you still have the physical symptoms, ask what's next.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:Okay, so
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:You just, it comes in layers. The human body never ever ceases to amaze me. And I've been working with it intimately for 35 years. And so it will reveal the information to you in layers as it sees fit. And so you just keep going, keep chipping at the layers to get to the underlining roots. Ergodynamics, that's one layer.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:I want to make sure I'm this because this is a lot to process. So for someone who's just about to start this journey, recommend that they kind of, if they're having pain, say in their shoulder. You recommend they visualize it, and when you say visualize it, I'm thinking more kind of like an athlete before a big sporting event. They're visualizing themselves doing the plays before they go out and do it, but instead of visualizing doing the plays, they're visualizing like the muscle loosening up and getting better and then asking, okay body, how do I get you to do this? Is that, kind of, am I there? Am I?
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:of a
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:Okay.
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:love that. I love this analogy because you're asking about elite athletes, right? And I
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:Yeah.
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:and I'm not an elite athlete, right? But I think about a biomechanic, whether it be in pickleball or whether it be in my weightlifting or in my yoga postures, I'm constantly visualizing. So the power of the brain, your body does not know what's real or perceived. Right. Can we agree on that?
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:Yeah.
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Your Olympic athletes can go and they can do the same sport and the same repetitive movement and get that ingrained within their muscular tissue. Okay. And within the neurology. So if you're sitting, the only difference Corbin that I'm asking you to do is to sit in stillness. I'm not asking you to do a sport or to visualize movement. I'm just asking you to sense. Feel and connect into your physical body and your body. If you lean into it, okay, and I know that lean into it can take on many definitions, but if you just shift your awareness into the area of pain, tightness, discordance dysregulation lack of vitality, tightness, constriction, then you can start to use your breath to relax it, right? You can use the body's imagery to release the tissue, but then you're asking, is it that you need from me? What is it? What's the core root of why this always comes back? You can get massages, you can get dry needling, you can do specific stretches, but that levator, it always comes back on fire. Why does it always come back on fire? Why?
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:So it's really kind of taking that idea of listen to your body to the next level is basically what I'm hearing.
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Yeah. With love and compassion, because many of us are so hard on ourselves, right? So with love and compassion, like I said, you don't have to respond, you just have to listen, right? Until you get multiple messages, and you're sure that message is what, you know, is coming to you. Then you get to act on that.
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:Okay, so I'm going to jump into the next question we ask of all of our guests. And I know you've alluded to a little bit of it with meditation and with yoga, and you kind of mentioned weight training, but What are you doing personally to age? Well,
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Okay, wow, how long do we have?
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:we have as much time as you need.
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Yeah, no. So I start my morning. I'm up at 415 in the morning and I start my morning with my green tea and a meditation. So from there I go to my various different forms of exercise. So it can be traditionally this week I did three days of weight training, two days of yoga, two days of pickleball and I've got another yoga class tonight and tomorrow morning. So, those are some of the things now, because I am doing some heavy lifting. I'm also supporting myself nutritionally. So, I am doing all the amino acids, whether it be leucine, allucine, valine, and just trying to help support the recovery. Because my tissues don't recover. the way that they once used to. So once I get my nutrients and I also support, I have other nutraceuticals, whether it be my omega threes, whether it be dim Moringa and also pre and probiotics. I also, me. I also measure my water content for the day. And so my diet primarily consists of probably less than 100 grams of carbohydrates a day with a heavy emphasis on protein, clean protein. I'm really not concerned about calories or concerned about fat or, you know, I just my body doesn't process carbs the way I would like it to. I physically feel better. I have less muscle aches and pains that way. And then sleep. I'm a good eight hours a night kind of sleep. I sleep, I see sleep twofold. I think it's a rejuvenating, a rejuvenation period for my body and also I, I capture information from my dreams in order to help process what's going on physically. I support myself mentally with more energy work and with seeing a therapist. I, Wow, what else? Yeah, to answer your question, that's it.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:forgot the weight training.
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:No, she said weight training.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:did? Oh, I
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:Yes, you've been doing heavy weight training.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:Must have clipped out on my part.
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:You're hitting all the bullet points.
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:yeah, I don't, I don't do heavy weight training every time that I go in. I do some plyometric type stuff and
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:That's fine. Yeah. It's perfect.
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:So what do you do to support sleep?
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:I'm a good sleeper. I'm a good sleeper. So I don't take anything from a nutraceutical standpoint for sleeping. But what I do, I'm really intent for by what I consume visually before I sleep. So I make sure that I'm reading before I go to sleep and that I have turned off all electronics and you know I haven't eaten and I haven't drank and you know that kind of stuff in which I admit You know, I don't have alcohol in my system or yeah
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:So what's next for you and your work? And how can our listeners learn more or engage with you in, in. If they just want to reach out and say hi. can our listeners get a hold of you?
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Yeah, I appreciate that phone call and I just want to say to the listeners You may have been listening for the last I don't know 45 minutes or so and said, okay this lady She's a little interesting. She's looking at health and well being from a perspective in a lens that I really haven't considered. So I guess when I say, if your curiosity has been piqued and you're like, Oh my God, I wonder if she could help me resolve this issue. If you're seriously sitting there saying, I wonder if, then go to my website at www. drmarysanders. org and Schedule a complimentary discovery call, and then that's when you and I will sit down, we'll go a video call, and we'll talk about whatever questions that you have, and you know, I always tell the person, just listen to your intuition, listen to your gut, you're going to know if you feel like I'm intuitively a good match for you, or not. Okay. And while you're on the website, two other things that I want to point your awareness towards is that if you're looking for guided meditations, I have a three guided meditations that help you in grounding and connecting with the earth's energy and bringing your awareness to be more present within present time consciousness. So, Download the meditations. I, there are three of my favorites. They're typically where I start my patients. And then last but not least, every month I host a somatic wisdom group healing. So just like I've been talking about with Jeff and Corbyn, when I say lean into your physical body and start asking your body, I guide people through this every month on their third Tuesday at 5 p. m. Mountain Time so that you are in an entrainment so that you receive more information. So all of the sudden, you're like, oh, I see what you mean by gathering information from the physical body. So that's, those are three opportunities for connecting and for learning more about the work that I do.
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:Well, Dr. Mary, this was a fascinating conversation. I think it's given our viewers and listeners a lot to think about, and I think it also kind of fills some of the different gaps and things that we talk about here. on the podcast is we have evolved, I think, a lot more from exploring our exercise science side to diving a little bit more into, again, what we call the spies, the spiritual, physical, intellectual, emotional, and social. And how all this fits together and you know how East meets West and North meets South and all the different connections that we can make to help one another age well. So we thank you and continue doing what you're doing and keep aging. Well,
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:Thank you. And it's been my honor to be on today's show. just want to say thank you for showing up in your strength, when it comes to the physical body with your background and exercise physiology, I think that foundation is a beautiful board, a beautiful place to springboard into some of the other tangential areas. So thank you for having me. And thank you for doing what you do.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:The
jeff_1_12-14-2024_072706:you're welcome.
corbin-bruton_1_12-14-2024_072707:the supernatural.
dr--mary--she-her-_1_12-14-2024_082706:It's a good way, Corbin.
Thank you for listening. I hope you benefited from today's podcast and until next time, keep aging well.
